1. (adrian_bucharest, 14 August 2017 14:28)

    Forget about GDPs. Croatia receives money from the EU fund. It gets money from Brussels to maintain infrastructure. Croatia has not earned a Euro cent of this money, but its included in calculating the Croatiaís GDP.

    In Kosovo, the west takes into account in growth projection calculations money sent to relatives living in Kosovo by family members who work in the EU - this year its 4%. Itís called statistical bullshit.

    Croatia living off tourism is another BS story. Main tourist period is June to August. Thatís 3 months. What do they eat for the other 9 months?

    Croatia lost 200,000 people last year and this year they project between 35,000 and 40,000. Last year 40,000 Croats lost their jobs and this year its projected to be 65,000. Not one industry has relocated to Croatia since the 1990s; not one.

    Walk down the main streets of Zagreb and try and find out who gets paid 700 or 800 Euros a month and see what how many you will find. I guarantee you they will laugh at the question.

    Look at the US. Its official unemployment level is now 4.7%. Even Donald Trump laugh at that figure. GDPs are much like the US unemployment figures Ė made up.

    Go to Montenegro and tell me how on Godís earth can it be richer than Bulgaria. Montenegro has no industries or no minerals. Its a major importer of food. So what does it have? Tourism. Richer than Bulgaria? another BS story.
    (sj, 15 August 2017 09:47)

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  2. SJ , I don`t think Croatia is more poor than Bulgaria without EU money because Croatia live from tourism , is 20% of gdp the tourism money , i don`t think Bulgaria is richer . Serbia have more big minimum salary and average pensions and average salary than Bulgaria . That Bulgaria doesn`t want to develop , the gdp might grow 2% 3% but the people never fell nothing . The mafia from Bulgaria is more big even than the one from Serbia !

    I forgot to mention that Montengro is richer than Bulgaria .

    Croatia have big average salary because of Zagreb and Split
    (adrian_bucharest, 14 August 2017 14:28)

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  3. (Mark.W, 12 August 2017 02:55)

    The best move was the breakup of Yugoslavia and most important of all Serbia no longer carries anyone on its back.

    Croats left Yugoslavia thinking that the west would shower them with gold and for a while it did look good until the GFC. Itís been downhill from then on.

    Yes, it is human nature to look for something better, but after hearing ad nauseum about the wealth of Croatia and how it single handily propped up Yugoslavia you would think it can now offer its people jobs and a high standard of living.

    The truth is Croatia is now even poorer than Bulgaria. If the EU did not support the Croatian currency and its bank loans, Croatia would be a failed state within 3 months.

    There is a very fine line between promoting something, be it a product or country, and BS. Just enough sells the product, but if too much it stinks, and in case of Croatia it reeks.

    Actually, there are many Serbs who work in Russia in the oil and gas industry. You also have Georgians, Ukrainians and Turks who work in Russia.
    (sj, 14 August 2017 10:27)

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  4. Hey Lenard, did you know that Thompson uses a custom made wooden dodo plug made from vrba tree when riding his motorcycle or horses? Same as Stepinac when he used to ride his bicycle.
    (Mastro Geppetto, 11 August 2017 17:13) That dose it if you Serbs apologies like you are going to. I might convince them [link] you didn't mean it.

    Usually when I apologize to pendejos I need to be relaxed.
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    (Tuco from Cocotlan, 13 August 2017 03:13)

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  5. Hey Lenard, did you know that Thompson uses a custom made wooden dodo plug made from vrba tree when riding his motorcycle or horses? Same as Stepinac when he used to ride his bicycle.
    (Mastro Geppetto, 11 August 2017 17:13) That dose it if you Serbs apologies like you are going to. I might convince them [link] you didn't mean it.
    (Lenard, 12 August 2017 21:59)

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  6. @SJ

    That is the conundrum. My experience has always shown that people donít leave a country of its successful, but perhaps Croatia is special where people migrating means wealth.

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    That could be the reason why Croatia left Yugoslavia and went to join the EU.

    Better to live in a small house in a nice neighbourhood rather then live in the biggest house in the ghetto. Which would you rather do?

    It is human nature to look for something better just as many from the region left for the west over the last few hundred years. You surely don't see many going to "Mother Russia" except of course our friend Dragoljub Djurkovic. :)
    (Mark.W, 12 August 2017 02:55)

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  7. @LOL

    Alex and Lenny,

    I don't know any Serbs who would sing any of that Thompson shit outside of satirizing it, but I do know many a Croatian wedding will, at one point in the evening, play Serbian music. Even better, Krajina Serb music.

    :)
    (LOL, 11 August 2017 15:30) # Comment link


    I do not want to get into your discussion with others but, my comment was meant to bring attention to many of the crazy nationalists we have among our own people and what they are doing.

    While wanting to believe that it is a form of satire you have to admit that almost everyone of them knew the words off by heart. That makes me believe that it was not the first time they heard the song or sang it. So you can try to justify it some how but the video speaks for itself.

    What is really funny is that it was filled in 1993 in Glina and now you have to wonder where those guys are today and how they feel about being immortalized on the internet for their friends, families and children to see.
    (Alex, 12 August 2017 01:12)

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  8. Consoling themselves by listening to Thompson music tell them they're special people :)
    (LOL, 10 August 2017 19:16) I know you Serbs secretly love Thompson's music [link] you wish had good singers like us Croatians. Instead of that inbred Hill Billy "music" of Serbia.
    (Lenard, 11 August 2017 10:38)

    Hey Lenard, did you know that Thompson uses a custom made wooden dodo plug made from vrba tree when riding his motorcycle or horses? Same as Stepinac when he used to ride his bicycle.
    (Mastro Geppetto, 11 August 2017 17:13)

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  9. Alex and Lenny,

    I don't know any Serbs who would sing any of that Thompson shit outside of satirizing it, but I do know many a Croatian wedding will, at one point in the evening, play Serbian music. Even better, Krajina Serb music.

    Speaking of "hillbillies" Lenny, Thompson makes a career off of hillbillies from Herzegovina and expats from Austrialia. He's got one year to make enough money playing a concert for neo-nazis to cover his expenses until next year. In between, he's constantly wondering why he's banned from "singing" in Slovenia, Austria, and Germany :)
    (LOL, 11 August 2017 15:30)

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  10. (adrian_bucharest, 11 August 2017 13:36)

    Despite Romania being in the EU living standards are not very high and what happens if the young educated people canít find work at home or the skills they have are poorly paid? They look outside. Serbia is the same.

    The best example why people leave was on Croatian TV Dnevnik about 6 weeks ago. A young Croatian couple who were specialists in Information Technology were migrating to Canada (I think) were asked why? They could find jobs in Croatia easily. They said their children had no future in Croatia.

    On Croatiaís average salary being 700 or 800 is pure BS. The real salary is about the same as in Serbia.
    (sj, 11 August 2017 14:52)

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  11. " Instead of that inbred Hill Billy "music" of Serbia."

    Lenard

    Yes hill billy music even you croatians love. Remember when Ceca was in Slovenia droves of croats from Croatia went to see her perform. Bosnia and Serbia has the best performers in the balkans. You croats should do what you do best: dress like gay men and sing your nazi song.
    (Hank the Tank, 11 August 2017 14:41)

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  12. Danke, Deutschland, Danke? Crotatia spanked from on high and given the choice to reverse their decision or have it done for them.
    (Mutti, 11 August 2017 14:39)

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  13. for Lenard ,

    In Serbia they had cut pensions with 10% but Vucic said he will give a good indexaction at begin of 2018

    Lenard Croatia have 59% consumption of EU , we Romanians have 63% consumption of Eu [link](EU-28%3D100).png

    Lenard at what help you 800 euro average salary if your consumption is under Romania ? Lenard your Croatia is the most poor from Union European as consumption after Bulgaria .
    (adrian_bucharest, 11 August 2017 13:44)

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  14. Sj i have a question for you , then what about the millions of Romania who leave Romania ?
    (adrian_bucharest, 11 August 2017 13:36)

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  15. (Mark.W, 11 August 2017 03:55)

    What I cant seem to reconcile is, based on your attachments, how well Croatia is going compared to all other ex Yug and the large numbers of young and qualified Croats leaving the country, which this year will be anywhere between 35,000 and 40,000. Last year, Croatia lost about 200,000 who went to look for work in the EU and elsewhere.

    That is the conundrum. My experience has always shown that people donít leave a country of its successful, but perhaps Croatia is special where people migrating means wealth.

    Croatia only has tourism and no country on this planet lives off just tourism which lasts about 3 months of the year. Either Croatia lives off fresh air or its being subsidised by the EU. One example, Croatia puts into the EU Fund 3 billion and withdraws 6 billion over a 12 month period.
    (sj, 11 August 2017 12:52)

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  16. Consoling themselves by listening to Thompson music tell them they're special people :)
    (LOL, 10 August 2017 19:16) I know you Serbs secretly love Thompson's music [link] you wish had good singers like us Croatians. Instead of that inbred Hill Billy "music" of Serbia.
    (Lenard, 11 August 2017 10:38)

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  17. may we all remember the victims of the Srebrenica massacre.
    (Bossi, 11 August 2017 08:32)

    If it makes your whirligig spin be my guest, please remember them.
    (sj, 11 August 2017 09:47)

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  18. Its is pure fantasy to blame only the Minister for Agriculture. The decision on increasing tax was a try on to see if they could get away with it, and all members of Cabinet would have been aware and approved of that action, including Plenkovic.

    This is not a minor agreement between 2 towns; itís a trade agreement with Serbia and Bosnia and it would stipulate in that document the level of tax and any future increases.
    (sj, 11 August 2017 09:44)

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  19. may we all remember the victims of the Srebrenica massacre.
    (Bossi, 11 August 2017 08:32)

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  20. What's the matter? Too much bad weather and wildfires this year? Need extra money for copies of Mein Kampf?
    (MikeD, 11 August 2017 06:13)

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  21. Consoling themselves by listening to Thompson music tell them they're special people :)
    (LOL, 10 August 2017 19:16) # Comment link


    Here are some others doing the same,

    Do you know any of them?

    [link]


    :)
    (Alex, 11 August 2017 04:18)

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  22. It's over okay but what's the point of it?? Someone pls??
    (get correct, 10 August 2017 17:43) # Comment link


    The point is that the Agriculture minister took it upon himself to make a decision that affected other ministries without consulting them or the Prime Minister, his move was not supported by Plenkovic or others in the government. In the end he had to back down since it was not an agreed policy.

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    (Mark.W, 11 August 2017 04:06)

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  23. The point is that Croatia has chronic unemployment, the Kuna cannot buy a pretzel and its debt per capita continues to rise. It will soon face austerity measures and it may be run by Germany, Austria or Hungary. Reminds you of Zagoria under the Austro-Hungarians, this time Yugoslavia or Serbia will not bail out there fellow South Slavs.
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    You really should do a little research before you post.

    As for unemployment

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    As for the wages of workers

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    As for the debt,

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    While Croatia's economy is far from perfect, it seems to be growing. With the expected $ 10 billion Euros to be pumped into the economy from tourism alone this year and strict budget I am sure others in the former YU would be happy to trade places in economic terms.
    (Mark.W, 11 August 2017 03:55)

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  24. @ Lenard - lol, sometimes I feel for you;)) Don't know where to go with all this and your default is "blame Srbija". I spent a lot of time this summer in Hrvatska, Baranja area, in a celo near Novi Bezdan.
    Lenard - let me put it simply to you...Hrvatska was ordered by big brother (EU) to quit playing tough guy and stop pretending Hrvatska is a "somebody" in this club of a "few big boys". They got spanked for thinking they "belong" in this club...and your default is right away "bame Srbija"...LOL, funny!!
    The sad part is Srbija wants to go to this same club where they'll compete with people like Croatians, Bulgarians, Romanians for toilet cleaning job...pathetic!
    (Watcher, 10 August 2017 23:06)

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  25. Vucic has to send a "Thank you" card to his Croatian counterparts and partners. I mean....more and more people in Serbia are waking up, and starting to wonder about Vucic's slogan "Serbia is winning!" They start to ask what did we win, actually, amidst sea of calamitous moves of our government. It wasn't hard to arrange some kind of display such as this with his European partners. Let's have someone slap something on us, and then have it removed. That way we can have people in Serbia think that we are winning....
    (Sreten, 10 August 2017 22:20)

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  26. Lenard

    Why are you so concerned about the economy in Serbia and neighbouring states? What's it to you? You should be happy my Serbia is buying all your cheap, low quality gods! If it was any good you would be selling to to western Europe instead. Imagine serbians who according to you don't have any money still are able to afford your crap. That says it all.
    (Hank the Tank, 10 August 2017 22:12)

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  27. Poor, cash strapped Croatia will just have to look for other ways of making money. Of course raising import taxes on non-Croat goods means there's a demand for them over Croatian products. Can't blame them.
    (Navi, 10 August 2017 21:37)

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  28. The point is that Croatia has chronic unemployment, the Kuna cannot buy a pretzel and its debt per capita continues to rise. It will soon face austerity measures and it may be run by Germany, Austria or Hungary. Reminds you of Zagoria under the Austro-Hungarians, this time Yugoslavia or Serbia will not bail out there fellow South Slavs.
    (Jugoslavija, 10 August 2017 20:48)

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  29. It's over okay but what's the point of it?? Someone pls??
    (get correct, 10 August 2017 17:43) The point is Serbia is so poor that its citizens cant afford their own goods. Serbia dumps them so cheap in to Croatia to get some mighty Kuna. In Serbia pensions were cut by 10% also workers salaries same but warmongering Serbia increased the Army personnel salaries by 10% go figure. Same with other southern Ex Yugo republics poor and do the same things dump. Croatia was the engine of Ex Yugo pulled and subsided the poor Republics. Serbia promised it will watch the dumping their products dirt cheap and other Republics. We all know how trusty Serbia is aka Mexicano Bandito's.
    (Lenard, 10 August 2017 19:19)

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  30. Where is big-mouth Darko and Lenny the Loser? Croatia caves again. Too funny!
    (njegos, 10 August 2017 16:27)

    Consoling themselves by listening to Thompson music tell them they're special people :)
    (LOL, 10 August 2017 19:16)

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  31. It's over okay but what's the point of it?? Someone pls??
    (get correct, 10 August 2017 17:43)

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  32. Where is big-mouth Darko and Lenny the Loser? Croatia caves again. Too funny!
    (njegos, 10 August 2017 16:27)

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  33. I know how Croatia can earn extra Kunas. It should run courses on how to make oneself look extremely stupid without really trying.

    I said they will fold like a cheap suit. And Donald Tusk keeps on telling the Croats they will be the ruler o the Balkans LOL.
    (sj, 10 August 2017 15:19)

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